JF Ptak Science Books LLC Post 856
Nothing
quite gives me the rumbles as seeing pictures of of obsolete ironclad (and I guess
pre-Dreadnought) battleships. I doubt
that there would be more things more fearful than seeing something like this
coming over the rise, Martian tripod death machines notwithstanding. The
ironclad/pre-dreadnought would certainly have some problems moving around on
the land, considering the huge power sources needed to move them while they
were floating in water. The giant tank also
looks pretty pervious, all things considered, and (among many other things)
looks as though it probably wouldn’t do so well in rainy weather—it looks like
it would generate its own Operation Barbarossa
mud wherever it went. My guess too is
that if got stuck, it was, well, stuck.
The
pursuit of sea-land machines has always had a huge ‘wow” factor, if for no
other reason than it was just out-of-place and big. I’ve written earlier here on Elmer
Cotherell and James Eads proposal to build a combination railroad ship canal
across the Tehuantepec isthmus in Nicaragua, hauling ships up and out of the
water and transporting them across land on six railroad tracks pulled by juggernaught
teams of locomotives. In the
fiction-made-fact world, Werner Herzog hauled a real steamship up and over a mountain for
the filming of his quixotic Fitzcaraldo,
which was simply a fabulous thing to see. (The film is a glory as is the film made on the making of the film.)
Getting
back to Holman’s landship—I remembered something similar to this, and actually
found a picture of it right here in my bizarre-archive. Popular
Science (December 1933) published this account of professor Eric R. Lyon’s1
conception of the Diesel-powered “Navitruck” (its name looking like quite
something different and not so pretty at the thing’s stern), a 1,500-ton
amphibious truck with (what Lyon states to be ) 30’-tall (and 10’-wide) tires. Given
this I approximate the monster would be 40’ wide and 100+’ long, and I guess at
least 35’ tall. A flattening tire on
land would be a problem; I guess a blowout would be catastrophic.
Did I
mention that this thing could float?
Anyway
Prof. Lyon envisioned a veritable Western ribbon of these things radiating from
There are
some real mammoth trucks rumbling around
mining operations, the Caterpillar 797e and Terex trucks, being two of the world’s
biggest. They are 22’ and 24’ high and
300 and 280 ton machines, respectively, and although they begin to approximate
the brutishness of the Lyon machine, it would still take five (or ten) of these
beasts to fill the shoes of the “Navitruck”. Also, a big point which isn't addressed with the Lyon's machine is fuel. The thing would have to have something like a 10,000-gallon fuel tank--which means the fuel alone would weigh 60 or 80 tons--to avoid having fuel stations spread like flies along the landship byways. Fuel consumption wouldn't be measured by the gallons/mile with something as monumentally heavy as this--it would be measured by the gallons/minute. Since the Caterpillar 797e drinks about a gallon a minute with a modern efficient engine, I'll make the wild iterative guess that the Navitruck would gulp 20/gallons a minute (?!), which would be a very hard rate of pumping at the gas station this afternoon. That means that this trucks would be filling-up twice a day after getting 225 miles/tank. At 15 cents a gallon (in 1933) that would make a $3,000 fill-up, which means it would cost about six thousand 1933 dollars to make it from Denver to L.A. Provided it didn't break down. [The wheels were on a fixed axle. Yikes.] The average salary in 1933 was a little more than half the cost of this fill-up, or about $72,000 in 2009 dollars. On the other hand, if these things hauled 3 million pounds the fuel costs for moving each pound would be about 2 (2009) cents. Or maybe not. (All of this scratch-pad reasoning might be wrong, but not horribly so, I don't think.)
There were definitely more convenient and already-exiting ways of hauling freight at this time, and the system had a much more robust delivery system and reach. That system was called "railroads".
All in
all, I’ve come to the conclusion that ship should stay in the water.
Note:
1. Professor Lyons (
"(All of this scratch-pad reasoning might be wrong, but not horribly so, I don't think.)"
Agreed - unless we go to the even more gruesome possibility of a colossal nuclear-powered land truck...
Posted by: Ray Girvan | 30 November 2009 at 02:01 PM
I have a photograph taken in the Forties of a rather large vehicle that I've never seen before, taken by an Army photographer. I'd like to id the thing, but everyone I've shown it to is at as big a loss as I am for an explanation. It could be a fuel hauler, but there's a door in the side of it for stepping into it, and no hoses or external connections for fuel. The tires are about ten foot tall...
Posted by: Dave Dubé | 30 November 2009 at 03:56 PM
Sounds fascinating! Let's see it.
Posted by: Ray Girvan | 30 November 2009 at 04:06 PM
I sent a scan of it to lily@segalbooks.com
If that's not the right place to send it, let me know: ddcachets@gmail.com
Posted by: Dave Dubé | 30 November 2009 at 06:08 PM
Yes, send it on Dave. Email it to jfptak@thescienceboosktore.com
Posted by: John Ptak | 30 November 2009 at 06:39 PM
Thanks, Dave. Interesting. It's obviously not an APC (which was my first thought). The location appears to be a racecourse. There's some kind of logo on the side. Is that as high a resolution as you can get? I'd say best bet is get a more high-res scan and throw it open for identification. If you're not a member, I'll happily post it to Ask Metafilter http://ask.metafilter.com/
Posted by: Ray Girvan | 02 December 2009 at 07:28 PM